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Kagiso R. Lekoloane (Faaiz) and Ismaeel are now friends Apr 7, 2009

At 5:53am on April 25, 2009, Ismaeel said…: Thank you Walaa, it was clearly a mis-print on my side.

At 5:47am on April 25, 2009, Walaa' said…: "MAN ARAFA NAFFSAHU... FAQAD ARAFA RABBAHU"

At 5:31am on April 25, 2009, Ismaeel said…: Tayyib!

Surely, everything will be gone except him (swt), just like it was from the start.

At 8:11pm on April 24, 2009, Muhakeem U Abdullah said…: Holy Quran 55:26-27, "All that is on earth will perish: but will abide (forever) the Face of thy Lord (Allah), Full of Majesty Bounty and Honour. Seems to further support the equation with the earth being the finite variable.

At 7:58pm on April 24, 2009, Muhakeem U Abdullah said…: Holy Quran 54:49, "Verily all things have we created in proportion and measure (decree, but, also construes power). Inna Kulla Shain Khalaqnahu biqadarin.

At 7:35pm on April 24, 2009, Ismaeel said…: this logic would be false. If Allah is one, nothing shares with that. To say something exist with him would constitutes shirk. al-Qadr is not understood as you say but how Al-Qadr it is explained to mean that he not only has the Amr to do what he wishes-with his iradah, but the Qadr-Power, to do so.

as Far as i know, there is no attribute that alludes he is one with everything, because this would contradict his Wahdaniyyah and Samadiyyah. Which is Muhal. There cannot be 2.

The proof of this is in the first 2 verses of Ihkhlas i.e. He is one and all else depends on his existence.

At 7:21pm on April 24, 2009, Muhakeem U Abdullah said…: Repost from graphic's page...
If we are only in existence only because He (Allah (swt)) exists then, all that has existed would still be in existence...and all that has yet to exist would be in existence. All the populations and cultures of the earth would be at once. There is another attribute of Allah (swt) named Al Qadr...Al Qadr has to do with the existence of all things...because He has created all things with Qadr...

At 6:52pm on April 24, 2009, Muhakeem U Abdullah said…: I see because the infinite is in the denominator and a finite value is in the numerator the value of the equation approaches zero...I see.
I assumed that it would be the converse of what takes place with the infinite value in the numerator with a finite value in the denominator...it becomes a very large positive value...must remember fractions don't work that way...conceptually the infinite does bring about a negative situation if made to be below a finite value...as with that ayat. The theory is that the divisions of the finite value or matter becomes so small that it becomes molecular, atomic, protonic, neutronic, quark splitting divisions...this then takes on the form of the igniting the atomic divisions and the chain reaction associated with that division of the finite matter and with it being infinite would create a continuous splitting of atoms...there is fire associated with these divisions so that is how I reasoned a negative value and not simply a zero value

At 7:38am on April 24, 2009, Ismaeel said…: what it comes down to, we dont exist. what a reality!

man arafa rabbahu, faqad arafa rabba

At 7:28am on April 24, 2009, Muhakeem U Abdullah said…: Thus, it is safe to say that there is never a gain in valuing anything above the infinite...except to determine the degree of the equations negative value for the finite variable.